I'm going to buy a new laptop, so I ask you to advise which of these processors will be better for the speed of optimization and training in NeuroLab
- Intel Core i7 13700H 2400MHz (RAM: 32 GB DDR4, video card: Intel Iris Xe Graphics, ASUS VivoBook 16 X1605VA-MB934)
- AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 365 (RAM 32 GB (LPDDR5X), AMD Radeon, ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED M5606WA-MX094)
- AMD Ryzen 7 8845H (RAM 32 GB (LPDDR5X), AMD Radeon 780M, Lenovo ThinkBook 16 Gen.6+ AHP 2024)
- Intel Core i7 13700H 2400MHz (RAM: 32 GB DDR4, video card: Intel Iris Xe Graphics, ASUS VivoBook 16 X1605VA-MB934)
- AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 365 (RAM 32 GB (LPDDR5X), AMD Radeon, ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED M5606WA-MX094)
- AMD Ryzen 7 8845H (RAM 32 GB (LPDDR5X), AMD Radeon 780M, Lenovo ThinkBook 16 Gen.6+ AHP 2024)
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I'd suggest 64GB RAM for optimizations with larger DataSets.
And as many Hz and Cores as you can afford.
And as many Hz and Cores as you can afford.
I mostly do single symbol strategies, not portfolio ones, so I haven't noticed any memory shortages.
Do GPU characteristics affect NeuroLab performance?
Do GPU characteristics affect NeuroLab performance?
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I mostly do single symbol strategies, not portfolio ones
Sooner or later you'll find out that single symbol stratgies are overoptimized (most of the time) before you even considered using an optimizer. ;)
Then you'll switch to portfolio strategies...
Then you'll need the RAM...
No, NeuroLab does not utilize the GPU.
I would always opt for more L3 on-chip processor cache over the number of cores. All the cores in the world won't help you if they are running at 1/10th of the speed because you are running out of processor cache (cache misses) to feed them.
I would pick the chip with the largest L3 cache possible. That will make the biggest difference. Unfortunately, Wealth-Lab requires lots of on-chip cache to be fast.
You probably already know this, but laptops have limited power consumption and cooling capacity. That means they will never match the speed of a workstation that has a processor chip that consumes 65-watts or more; there's just no way. Some high powered workstations have processor chips that consume over 350-watts, but you don't need that kind of performance. Happy computing to you.
I would pick the chip with the largest L3 cache possible. That will make the biggest difference. Unfortunately, Wealth-Lab requires lots of on-chip cache to be fast.
You probably already know this, but laptops have limited power consumption and cooling capacity. That means they will never match the speed of a workstation that has a processor chip that consumes 65-watts or more; there's just no way. Some high powered workstations have processor chips that consume over 350-watts, but you don't need that kind of performance. Happy computing to you.
I've run WL on an i7 processor in my Surface and the top-end i9 processor in my desktop. The i7 works fine for simple strategies but it doesn't hold a candle to the i9 - it's faster, can manage more complex strategy backtesting, and multiple active charts much better.
Spending a few $$'s now for the best you can afford is easy money a year or two down the line, especially knowing the goal is to earn big $$'s.
Spending a few $$'s now for the best you can afford is easy money a year or two down the line, especially knowing the goal is to earn big $$'s.
Thank you all. I recently bought a laptop from the "gaming" category specifically for WL, it has a 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13650HX CPU. It copes 3-4 times faster than my laptop, which had an i7-10510U CPU before. That's why I want to replace my first laptop too, but it should be light and thin so that I can take it on trips.
This might help: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
If we take into account the condition "I would pick the chip with the largest L3 cache possible", then of these three options the best choice will be Intel Core i7 13700H 2400MHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5226vs5929vs6180vs5253/Intel-i7-13700H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-8845H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-AI-9-365-vs-Intel-i7-13650HX
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5226vs5929vs6180vs5253/Intel-i7-13700H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-8845H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-AI-9-365-vs-Intel-i7-13650HX
I was running WL on the Geekom AI Mini PC GT1 Mega. This was ultra fast, it just turned out noisy on some occasions. It is not a notebook.
Here are the specs:
GEEKOM AI Mini PC GT1 Mega - Intel Core U7 155H,16 Kerne 22 Threads, Bis zu 4.8GHz, 2.5Gbps Dualer LAN Port, Mini PC Windows 11 Pro 32GB DDR5+1TB SSD mit WiFi 7, Real-time AR, Vier 4K-Displays, BT5.4
Here are the specs:
GEEKOM AI Mini PC GT1 Mega - Intel Core U7 155H,16 Kerne 22 Threads, Bis zu 4.8GHz, 2.5Gbps Dualer LAN Port, Mini PC Windows 11 Pro 32GB DDR5+1TB SSD mit WiFi 7, Real-time AR, Vier 4K-Displays, BT5.4
Does WealthLab actually work with AMD processors? There are these very expensive AMD threadripper processors with lots of cores.
Of course, yes. Mine is a Ryzen 7 5700G, for example. (Not the fastest, but it's a Quiet PC with no fan.)
@Cone: Thank you very much! Good to know, as AMD also has some interesting processors. I just had it in my head that there might be problems there, unlike Intel. Fortunately I was wrong :-)
I'm running a Beelink SER8 Mini PC, AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS (8C/16T) and 96GB DDR5 RAM.
Fast, quite and power efficient. Highly recommended!
Fast, quite and power efficient. Highly recommended!
I'm running Alienware M16 with I9 Intel. They are cheap at best buy as open box, because all the gamers want the M16 with Ryzen AMD processor which is 10 to 15% faster.
This Intel M16 has a 330W power supply and keeps my coffee hot while the fans blow the paper off my desktop. So if you get a lap top it will be noisy.
It is fast and can travel. I did upgrade to 32G and likely more memory would be better, but while running during trading multiple 5min charts it consumes less than 20G. Simulations can take more memory.
I would go open box as technology is changing fast right now.
Plus a few good trades will pay for a new computer and you maybe able to get your CPA to write it off as cost of trading.
This Intel M16 has a 330W power supply and keeps my coffee hot while the fans blow the paper off my desktop. So if you get a lap top it will be noisy.
It is fast and can travel. I did upgrade to 32G and likely more memory would be better, but while running during trading multiple 5min charts it consumes less than 20G. Simulations can take more memory.
I would go open box as technology is changing fast right now.
Plus a few good trades will pay for a new computer and you maybe able to get your CPA to write it off as cost of trading.
In the end, I got a laptop with an Intel Core i7-13620H CPU, 32Gb. I didn't notice any difference in performance compared to my other "gaming" laptop when running WL tasks.
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